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April 08, 2008

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Kathy Callahan-Howell

Amen! May your tribe of young idealists increase, Greg.
Life will take the edges off your idealism, but we must all hold on to the ideals brought to the front by our founders and Jesus himself.
To the ongoing dilemma of should we choose personal holiness or social justice, we should answer a resounding, Yes!

Jeremy Thomas

As to Kathy's comment--life may indeed take the edge off of idealism, but it doesn't have to take the edge off of radicalism. If you want to take the edge off of radicalism, get involved in the denominational bureaucracy! Then you will be part of the system and be required to defend it.


Actually, I think that what really happens with the radical message is that our leaders go around saying to themselves, well that would be nice—personal and social holiness--but in reality we know that people are never going to be willing to pay the price, so let’s settle down into a nice, soft, comfortable, generic evangelicalism and celebrate the good things that God is doing in foreign missions, and maybe if God is gracious enough, he might send us another family to warm our padded chairs and contribute 2-3% of their adjusted gross income to the offering plate!


Thus, I defend my original claim that while, indeed, a holistic holiness is the core message of our church, that message is all for not, if it is not readily inculcated into our lives. If it is true that we want to spread scriptural holiness across the land, we should recognize the absolute necessity of privileging the importance of the delivery method. Holiness was both the key message and the key outcome of our founders’ legacies, but there was a methodology that connected the two.


Hence, I think that the most radical thing we could do as a church is to rediscover that methodology. Whether we use the same nomenclature and specifics as did Wesley and Roberts is obviously not the point, but we do need to be inquiring with one another, how is it with your soul? What known sins have you committed since we last met? Where is it that God is challenging you to grow in holiness? These examples of accountability and community need to be a regular part of the ongoing discourse of the church. Simply put, we need to practice holiness together—not as disconnected private individuals, but as groups of open and honest seekers, laying their lives out publicly before both God and one another. When we do this, we will be radical!

WICK

I know that I'm fairly new to Free Methodism, having come from those Nazarenes...but I'd agree that returning to many of the "methods" is probably a very important thing. Not as an end...or even as a means to an end...but very much as a beginning. Our church, and the Church are thirsty for a new outpouring of the Spirit...and needs this kind of stuff to not only be talked (or blogged) about...but lived. :)

I'll do it if you will.

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