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Martha Kirkpatrick

Thanks, Bishop Kendall, for being a voice where lots of people are reading! We agree with what you're saying one hundred percent! God help us as a church and as a nation. We pray for our bishops every day and appreciate all you do!

Peter Tremblay

The Government must learn to live within its means. It is immoral to borrow and expect our children to pay back the money. Certainly cuts should include the military. But Biblically, we are to "render to Ceasar what is Ceasars" and to "God what is Gods". The responsibility to feed the poor is ours as Christians, and I find no Scriptural support for us to pass that responsibility off to the government. We Christians started hospitals, schools, and social agencies of every sort. Our great failure is passing these off to the government who then kicked us out along with our message. Shame on us. These are our Christian responsibilities.

AJ French

Bishop Kendall,

Thank you for your words. This has been on my mind before I even read your post.

In Illinois, the budget proposed for 2012 is literally risking the health and lives of persons with mental and physical disabilities.

Someone recently told me that state legislatures receive paid health insurance for themselves and family members for as long as they are living...even if the person only serves a two year term and does a poor job.

I've been wondering about the role of the church in social justice issues. I've listened to the explaination of a distinction between a ministerial alliance and a collaboration of congregations that work on social justice issues. I find myself wondering why more churches aren't proactive with matters that threaten the "least of these."

Being a little younger than you :) :) :) I look back at the civil rights movement and wonder how people in our country were so ignorant. The church, especially African-American congregations, played a critical and very public role in that era, but today I am wondering about the role the church will play in advocating on behalf of persons living with disabilities. What will generations that follow mine think? More importantly, how do we stand before Almighty God?

Thank you again for your words.

Ron White

Thank you Bishop for being a prophetic voice to the Church and to the nation. I would agree that the "first responders" to the crushing poverty of so many really ought to be the Church. But the arguement becomes less convincing when our local church budgets mirror the government in heavily weighting our "limited funds" toward self-preservation, edification, and protection of our properties. If we truly believe that it is our job after all, what are we waiting for?

Indybikehiker

I appreciate very much what you have written in this post. Thank you.

Ivan Ramos

There is no question that some 'haves' are getting more than their fair share, a.k.a. corporate welfare. And as a society, North Americans are gluttonous beyond measure.

You appear to me, however, to be in the 'glass half full' camp, which feels the pie is stagnant & must be divvied a certain way. I am not willing to side with 'command economy' types, particularly in guvamint, who espouse taking from those who produce & have in order to more grow the gross behemoth state, while they supposedly give to those who often make less & have even less.

It is more appropriate for the guv to let a free people decide for themselves how and how much to give, thereby empowering more of the people, including the 'have nots,' to produce and to give, each according to their ability. This is the birthright of a free people.

P.S. Once guvamint decided to enter the charity arena a hundred or so years ago, the very Church you serve became less empowered to function properly, giving up our place to bumbling bureaucrats! And in the ensuing fattening of America, that Church has lost its voice, mostly failing to challenge those very fat cats who so desperately need to diet. A Christian conundrum, yes.

The glass is actually half full, and quite capable of running over, if Washington and most local governments would re-acquire a more legitimate size AND the Church reclaimed its proper prophetic voice in the world!

David Kendall

Hi Ivan,

I think we are much more in agreement than not.

In viewing the government that must--I mean it they must--deal with the huge fiscal realities that call for less spending, I am indeed a glass half empty type, since I see little if any resolve to make hard calls, except those that affect the weakest members of our society, the poor and without power. I am half empty indeed, perhaps even more empty at that point--where are the civil servants who will evaluate the areas of government that are most funded with the same rigor as other areas?

I am glass half full, however, when I think of the church's potential to offer prophetic corrective and challenge, to encourage its members to advocate and vote for fiscal responsibility and so forth. those who claim allegiance to Jesus are huge proportionately in our nation. what if they called for decisions about budgetary matters that reflect the heart of Jesus. i am half-full, perhaps two thirds full on that!

then, also, just a word about the church's abdication of responsibiity to care for the poor. No argument from me there. That it happened is certain and that we are languishing in some ways as a result I am also certain. but it would be a grave error in a democracy like ours simply to think that the church needs to take back responsibility to the poor and that this is the only response we have to make. We are called to be light and salt; we are called to remind the holders of power that they are accountable; and some of us are called to enter into those arenas of governance and economic spheres to advocate for and promote public policy that is responsible and righteousness by the standards of Jesus' kingdom. I am not talking here about redistributing the wealth, but the just and Jesus-way of using revenue and of making hard decisions about what we need to do and need to stop doing. Surely Jesus and his way can inform our leaders, even if they do not want to follow him. At least, we must be sure they have clear understandings of how we believe Jesus would shape public policy to more nearly conform to his kingdom.

Let's pray and work together so the church will be more the church Jesus envisions and our government will do what is best for all, but especially for those who have no voice or influence (which includes our children and grandchildren some of whom are yet to be born!).

Jann White

Ezekial 16:48 "Sodom and its nearby villages . . . were arrogant and spolt; they had everything they needed and still refused to help the poor and needy. They thought they were better than anyone else".
Matthew says it will be better for Sodom in the day of judgment . In Matthew 25 we are told that the NATIONS will be judged and individuals separated on the basis of whether they feed the hungry, clothe the naked, welcome aliens, look after the sick, and visit those in prison, not because they are deemed as deserving (we are clearly told to judge not) , but because they are in need. Israel was rescued from slavery and oppression in Egypt and told repeatedly and in the strongest terms that their national status was NOT to be elitist, but to be representative of mercy. Jesus gave the same mandate to the church.

Got that Ellie May?

Brenda Young

Love you making us think! Great stuff!

Jonathan

Mr. Kendall: Does this article have any thing to do with the church's view of social justice?

AJ French

Ode to Budget Cuts
written by Lynn Jarman

Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep

And if it’s in your master plan, I pray that you would help my friends

For we are being now advised, that charity is not so wise

That governments are not the ones, that should assist their fallen sons

For those whose birth was not well planned, or for the sole who cannot stand

For children born to poverty, for old and young struggling to breath,

For those who eat just once a day, and those with nowhere safe to stay

For seniors who have lost their will, who no longer can afford their pills

We ask that you would bless all these, and show them mercy if you please

And touch the hearts of those who plan, who try to balance budgets grand

Remind them of the truth behind, your acceptance of all kinds

That if they claim to follow you, that certain things must still ring true

That those who’ve lost the will to hope

Those down and out, those high on dope

For those who cannot pay their bills, and feel the touch of winters chill

For those who live with violence’s pain, and those who struggle to be sane

That all these mentioned up above are still included in God’s love

And all of us whose blessings pour, who feed our children and keep them warm

Who sit in pews on Sunday morn, but fail to head their brother’s thorn

Will one day face the eyes of God, and watch all those who were down trod

As they parade before I Am, and he decides who’s saved or damned

So just remember as we speak, of who is worthy to receive

That budgets cut on broken men, is as egregious as any sin

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